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Yes, big differences.
Robots must be tested very well at your chosen broker. At different prop firms or brokers you will have different results.

Anyone here can confirm for you. I have two challenge accounts on a VPS and I run robots continuously on both and that’s how I see the differences.

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Last week I told you that I sent a request to FTMO asking them if they use the same server for all types of accounts. To know if the test results on a demo account will be the same on the challenge account and on a funded account.

Here is the answer received:
Dear Gabriel,
Thank you for reaching out to us.
Regarding your questions about the results obtained.
The Max Loss and the Max Daily Loss will always be the same on the FTMO Challenge, Verification and FTMO Account (funded account).
Notice that the FTMO Challenge requires you to reach a 10% Profit Target, while the Verification requires you to achieve the 5% like the Free Trial.
You have no required Profit Target on the FTMO Account.

Notice that we have different servers at FTMO, The FTMO-Demo and the various FTMO-Server. The historical data will always be the same on all the FTMO different servers, we just have many of them for management reasons but they all act the same with the same characteristics.

If you have any other concerns, feel free to contact us again.

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If you say that you started yesterday, it means that today is the first day of trading.
I test the robots on two accounts with different brokers and today I have only one trade open, with each of them, on USDCHF, but several hours apart.

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EURAUD has always given constant profit. But the last trade opened for me was on January 3.

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Hello Alan.
I do not have a challenge account at FTMO.
The decision to buy a challenge account from them depends on the answer I expect from them. If the demo account and the challenge account are not on the same server, then the performances of the robots on the demo account are irrelevant.

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Hello everyone!
I have a challenge account at FXIFY.
After I tested and went crazy with both version 5 and version 6, I only recently understood that actually the only correct testing method is to test on a live account with 0.01 lotsize. Which I will actually do starting from Monday. I see which robots performed the best last week and for the first 3 I will increase the lotsize depending on the value of the account we have. And at the end of next week we will do the same.
From the discussions on the forum I understood that with any broker or prop firm, their demo accounts and their live accounts can or can not use the same server with the same historical data. So, the results can be completely different.
The same thing can happen if we use robots on the challenge account, pass both phases and receive the live account. And the live account is on a different server than the challenge account. The results will again be different.
For example, in order not to test the FTMO demo account in vain, on Thursday I sent them an email in which I asked them if the demo account, the challenge accounts and the live accounts are on the same server, with the same historical data. No answer so far.
I hope I have understood all these things correctly so far.
To be honest, I never imagined that using robots could be so complicated and so time-consuming. Very long time.
And I’m waiting to see the first users who will receive funded accounts.
I saw that Petko has already passed, but let’s not include Petko here.

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For testing, can I run V5.1 and V6.0 at the same time on the same account?
Does it not interfere in any way, considering the fact that the bots use the same pairs?

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Thank you so much.

I also have this message and I don’t know what the difference is compared to the previous one
USDCAD.r: history synchronized from 2020.01.02 to 2023.12.29

[gabiscriba]

I understand.

Please tell me what would be the explanation of this message from Strategy tester/Journal
USDCAD.r : real ticks begin from 2023.05.22 00:00:00, every tick generation used

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Alan, thank you very much.
It is a very detailed answer and now I understand perfectly how these things work. I will also try to test directly on the real account with 0.01 lot to find the top performers.
But I also want to test the robots for longer periods of time, so I need to test with the Strategy tester module.

By the way, do you know if FTMO demo account and FTMO real account use the same server with the same historical data?

But, in fact, the meaning of my question was slightly different. My chosen broker (of my prop firm account) does not have a demo account. That’s why I test the robots in the Strategy Tester module, directly on the challenge account I trade on, so historical data should be the same. In this case, the results from the Strategy tester should be identical to the ones I would have obtained if I placed the trades on the account at that time? Because I’m testing on the same account.

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Thanks Alan.
Just to understand better.
With the historical data of my broker, no matter that history quality is 63%, will the test results reflect reality? So I can trust the test results as they are, would the same results have been obtained in reality?

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Hello everyone.

After testing the robots on an FTMO demo account, I am now trying to test the robots on my chosen broker.
But no matter what test I do, history quality is 63%. And the results are very different from FTMO, where history quality is 100%.
How does this 63% affect the result and accuracy of the tests? How much can I rely on these tests?
Can I do anything to improve these performances or what else can I do?

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Do those who do not have such problems have to replace the robots with the new updated version?

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After I did all the possible tests of the V6.0 version on an FTMO trial account strategy tester, today I also tested on my chosen prop firm. Unfortunately, it does not have a demo account and I can only test it on the strategy tester.
I used exactly the same parameters as with FTMO, but the results are absolutely completely different. Profit 4 times lower in some pairs, loss in some pairs that are very profitable at FTMO and others of this kind.
Maybe the historical data is the problem, because whatever test they do the historical data is 63%.
If you can tell me what could be the reasons for these strange test results. And if I could do something about it.
And if the broker’s data is to blame and I can’t do anything, if I can trust the tests at FTMO in the future. Because I assume that the differences cannot be very big.

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Just like me, non FTMO. Instead USDCHF trade, opened on FTMO, closed earlier with SL hit.

 

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